Hi, So some more on Girard. I'm thinking he doesn't know who his real father is. His mother refused to say. There were probably conflicting rumors, but no single person stood out as most likely. As for his birthmark: an interesting twist would be if he had a similar birthmark to Bill's PC (i.e. a twisty, vaguely serpent-like mark). His mother Gwelen was a fiery, strong-willed Jarin woman who was defiant at first about her pregnancy and refused to say who the father was except that he would not acknowledge it. She was, however, the Jarin daughter of a wealthy man and otherwise considered a good match for the Gelfein's son. I want to look more into the villages and trade of northern Kaldor before deciding what her family was like. I imagine them coming as a clan some fifty years earlier and basically working out a deal with the local lord where they would clear part of the forest themselves and then contribute to the manor as freemen (which they were). They remained fairly distinct from the locals, at least thus far. I take him as basically having a wanderlust. This as well as devotion, was behind his initial pilgrimage to Araka-Kalai. So I would guess him to be a pilgrim of the third stone (his Smell is below average). I would say that he met the priest of Chuclaen Wheelwright at the village of Ochrynn who tried to recruit him for either the clerical order or the Aenghysa. I think they got along well, and may have gone to the further stones with him. Then on the way back at Leriel he met with brother Olrau as you said. This would be many years ago. He went back to his home and announced his intention to become a priest, and put in order his familial obligations. So he went to Gedan. But I don't think he would get along well with the Aenghysa. I think it is a bit modernist to think of them as "revolutionaries" or "rebels". From reading, I think of them as bandits. I mean, they live in a fairly barren region and make raids. They have real religious and political rhetoric, but it's still close to a bandit's life. So while he still feels strongly about the evil of Ivinians and Jarin independence, he is not comfortable with the Aenghysa. I think his wanderlust and social nature play a part in this, but there would also be a religious component. I'm still pondering that part, but I think it involves seeing a different meaning to the mystery of Chuclaen Wheelwright. The thing is, I want him to still be strongly motivated and proactive. I don't want him to be just disillusioned and trying something new out. I'll ponder it some more. - John